Being Behind the Scenes of TNOTY: Ep 22
Highlights from the episode:
How Things No One Tells You was born out of one powerful question
Why confidence starts with curiosity, not perfection
Learning to ask meaningful questions
How to get into the room where impact happens
What’s next for TNOTY and our community
Podcast show notes:
What happens when the interviewer becomes the interviewee?
In this behind-the-scenes episode, Things No One Tells You producer Ashley Dickson-Ellison turns the mic toward me for a candid Q&A. Ashley asks me some audience questions including how the concept of TNOTY came to be, who the women are behind it, and what imposter syndrome really feels like when the cameras stop rolling.
From the Super Bowl to family life, Ashley asks me audience questions about the moments that have had an impact on me. I share a little bit about what I’ve learned about confidence: it isn’t pretending to belong. It’s daring to ask.
What You’ll Hear in This Episode:
How Things No One Tells You was born (03:25)
Lessons from women supporting women in media (08:10)
Why asking questions is a superpower (14:00)
Parenthood, purpose, and giving back (24:30)
What’s next for TNOTY (24:30)
3 things no one knows about me (52:12)
If you’ve ever wondered how this podcast comes together, or needed a reminder that confidence grows one question at a time, this one’s for you.
Connect with the TNOTY team
Connect with podcast producer and strategist Ashley Dickson-Ellison on LinkedIn or Instagram, check out her Unabridged podcast, or learn more about Unabridged Digital Media Solutions through Ashley’s website ashleydicksonellison.com.
Connect with brand manager and strategist Sarah Walsh on LinkedIn or Instagram, follow her on Substack, or learn more about Next Era Influence through Sarah’s website nexterainfluence.com.
Connect with audio engineer and video editor Samantha Archuleta on LinkedIn or Instagram, check out Something More Human, or learn more about Sam’s audiobook narration and production services here.
Be sure to subscribe to Things No One Tells You—Lindsay’s podcast all about the real, unfiltered conversations we don’t always have but should. From big names to everyday voices, each episode dives into the moments that shape us. Listen wherever you get your podcasts!
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Full Transcript
[00:00:00] Lindsay: The thing that no one tells you is you can and should always ask questions. And what I mean by that is like, when I think back to my very first imposter syndrome that I can remember in my career, being at the Super Bowl, there was an event one evening that we had to go in because we knew that a couple of executives that were there were gonna be at this event.
[00:00:24] And that's where we were gonna pull them aside. And I vividly have this. Memory of going into this event where it was all these general managers from different teams, and I just felt like I was a fish out of water. I wanna belong here. I don't know that I do like I'm wearing a suit, probably, but I'm not, I don't know.
[00:00:42] So I learned fast that it's like, okay, I, you can try to exude confidence, you know, by just walking, you know, shoulders back, walking into a room. But I really think what I've learned along the way that's helped me most is. Finding and not being scared to ask questions. Hey everybody, I'm Lindsay. This is Things No One tells You, our podcast that we also call TNOTY.
[00:01:07] And this week it's gonna be a little bit different 'cause we're taking you behind the scenes, and I'm so excited. You guys have been so great about sending in some really interesting questions about things No One Tells You. What is the story behind it, et cetera? So we thought, you know what? Maybe we just do an episode dedicated to a little Q&A.
[00:01:28] Put a pin in that for a second 'cause one thing I did wanna share is, I am so excited about the episodes that we have coming up soon, within the next month or two. I love the conversations we've had so fr, and I really love when we can build this community and really connect about the things no one tells you that you think we should be talking more about.
[00:01:47] So, a reminder to subscribe so you get to listen to all of those, but. I also wanted to note that this weekend was really special. What I wanted to share was that we went down to Washington, D.C. Most of you probably know I'm from Virginia, so that's basically where I consider home. I lived there for several years, covered sports there, and we went back to the Blue Hope Bash, and it was.
[00:02:09]sband, my two kids and our parents, Melvin and my families both came as did my sister-in-laws and my brother, my husband's brother. And it was so special because the Blue Hope Bash is in honor of colorectal cancer. We have a connection to the Colorectal Cancer Alliance. Some have been doing work with them for a really long time, so they.
[00:02:30] I decided to honor Melvin and myself, which was so kind and amazing to be in that room. But we had our kids there with us, and it's the first time that we've ever received an award together, which was awesome, but that our kids were able to kind of see something like that and understand, I think, the power of the ability to give back and working to give back and what that can look like.
[00:02:51] And I just thought, man, like this something I, something no one told me was. What that is like and how important it is to do that when we have the opportunity. And what I didn't realize was just by them being in that room, because to be honest, we had to make tough decisions about whether to do that. Do we do a basketball tournament?
[00:03:09] You know, and it's a big deal at this age. But it really made an impact on them, and I thought that was really cool. And I'm hopeful that maybe one day, when they look back, that will be one of the memories that they have that helps 'em realize, like, Hey, I can do that too. So there's that. Okay.
[00:03:24] Anyway, so today, because you guys have been so awesome and engaging and asking interesting questions, we were like, let's just do a Q & A. So. I am also excited because I get to introduce you to a very special member of my team today. And I thought, you know what? We need to talk a little bit more about that, 'cause I want you guys to know who is behind this podcast with me.
[00:03:43] So today you guys are gonna meet Ashley Dickson-Ellison. She is amazing. She has her own podcast. It's called Unabridged, a book podcast, which is actually celebrating its 300th. Episode in November. So the girl knows something about podcasting in a real way. She runs her own podcast production and strategy business, which is so awesome, on a Bridge Digital Media solution.
[00:04:06] So if you're looking to start your own, I highly recommend, after the episode, I'm gonna introduce you to a couple other members of our team who are amazing, Sarah and Sam, but in the meantime, thank you so much for sending in your questions. This is a Q&A that's really a mix of like career life stuff, wife stuff, motherhood.
[00:04:25] And Ashley, by the way, is a terrific interviewer. No shock. She has her own podcast, but I hope you enjoy this Q&A. Thanks for your questions. Enjoy.
[00:04:34] Ashley: Hi, and welcome to Things No One Tells You.
[00:04:36] Lindsay: That sounds nice. You're good at that.
[00:04:39] Ashley: Today, we have a very special guest. I'm Ashley. I'm the show's producer, and today we have a special guest who is already kind of heckling me here.
[00:04:47] We are so excited to talk with our beloved host of things. No One Tells You or TNOTY, as we like to call it. Yes, Lindsay Czarniak.
[00:04:59] Lindsay: That intro was awesome, and also, I mean, the fact that you are the glue that really holds this together is why I am laughing, thank you. I am, no, truly, Ashley is the glue, and she's also a great friend and she's a great producer, so yeah.
[00:05:15] And accomplished podcasts are on your own, in your own right. I love learning from you, so.
[00:05:19] Ashley: Oh, thank you.
[00:05:21] Lindsay: Woo-hoo.
[00:05:21] Ashley: Awesome. We are, so we've been going at it for quite a while. This is episode 22, and so we just wanted to take a chance to talk about some things. We've gotten lots of great questions and comments as we've gone along here, and so we wanted to take a time to do a Q&A with Lindsay.
[00:05:38] So we have some questions from the audience, and just wanted to open up this way of doing things, and this won't be our only one. So if you are listening today and you're like, oh, we have questions, go ahead and send 'em to us because we would love to hold on to them for our next Q&A
[00:05:55] Lindsay: I wonder if Taylor Swift would consider letting us use her song 22 in this episode. Probably not. I'm thinking a hard no. But maybe Sarah on our team could see if she can make that happen.
[00:06:06] Ashley: I love that idea.
[00:06:07] Lindsay: Anyway, but can I just say real quick before you start, one thing that I think is really amazing about our team is that. Folks wouldn't know if they're listening or watching, but we have this awesome team of women who produce and put on this podcast, and it wasn't that we were necessarily intentional with that, although I always love an opportunity to work with, you know, creative women, et cetera.
[00:06:29] But I think that's been really cool. And it's been really awesome to get to know everyone because we are from all different areas of the country, too. So I joke that I feel like I've known Ashley forever and that maybe we should really be living on the same street. But she's in South Carolina.
[00:06:45] Ashley: We do have a lot of, we are fortunate that we have a lot of parallel life experiences.
[00:06:50] We are both moms. Our kids are very similarly aged, and so we've been getting to do a lot of those milestones together, which means a lot. It is very helpful.
[00:06:59] Lindsay: Should we tell them about how my son's name is Dell? And yours is Della?
[00:07:02] Ashley: Yes. How random, and they're both in sixth grade this year. So we have, yeah,
[00:07:06] Lindsay: There's that.
[00:07:06] Ashley: We crossed the middle school, John. So shout out to Bridget Ura, who just did the last episode, but I was behind the scenes on that one. But taking avid notes while she was sharing different things to do with our middle schoolers. So
[00:07:20] Lindsay: Yes.
[00:07:21] Ashley: Lots to learn there. So one of the questions is, what is the story behind?
[00:07:28] Things No One Tells You? How did that come to be?
[00:07:32] Lindsay: Oh, that's a good question. Right out of the gate. So, somewhere along the line started realizing, you know, there are all these things, and covering sports, I think, is probably where I first started realizing it. But certainly just through life experiences, you know, like talking to athletes and getting to know their stories sometimes, whether it was like in prep that I was doing for sideline reporting or sports center days, or really whatever it is, when you have an opportunity to get too a deep dive into someone and their story.
[00:08:04] Inevitably, I've sort of just taken stock of the fact that there is something that someone has gone through that, usually, we regular society, we can be like, oh wow. Yes, totally. I get that. And I started to realize, like probably within the past year, that it's like, you know, when you have a conversation with someone and they're.
[00:08:25] Oh yeah, it was great. I took this job. But listen, the thing no one tells you is that dot dot dot or, you know, oh, we, we went here for a trip. The thing no one tells you, though, is da. Like, you can apply that phrase to so many different things. And I think, what are we really saying when we're saying the thing no one tells you is the real story that no one's necessarily gonna talk about is, and the real story.
[00:08:53] Means something to me because I really think that there are so many things in life, and you can make it deep or you can make it more surface. But whether it is conversations about race, conversations about marriage, about raising kids, about the grind to be the best at what you're doing professionally, about how you're navigating the world as your own self, it's like.
[00:09:19] No matter what, there are these things that feel hard to talk about because maybe we're embarrassed to bring them to the surface because for whatever reason. And so I really think trying to have those conversations is so powerful and can just open doors if we do it in. A thoughtful manner, you know, like what are we scared of?
[00:09:42] When I had a conversation with my mother-in-law about race, this was a few years ago, I just wanted to ask her questions that I had thought of, and I was really nervous to ask her some of those questions because I didn't wanna. Ask a question in a way that seemed in any shape or form, uneducated, disrespectful, what have you.
[00:10:01] And she was such a wonderful, safe space and person to talk to about it because she was so honest. And I just found from that conversation and then subsequently others on other topics that. Usually, those are the kinds of talks where people are like, Ohh yeah, let me, you know, so really long way of saying, I think that when we connect about the things no one tells you, it's a go.
[00:10:24] It reveals, you know, interesting conversations and stories from everyone who has the power of connection. But also, we can oftentimes really learn from it and then apply it to our own lives. And sometimes it's really fun stuff and just completely random.
[00:10:39] Ashley: Yes. Yes. I think it's been so interesting to see the guests come and share because what we have found on the backend of things is that there are a lot of through lines that we did not anticipate, of what people share from different industries, connecting to just life experience and being human, and how those things kind of transcend some of these different industries.
[00:11:01] Lindsay: No, you're right. I was gonna say like, I think a couple of things that have really stuck out for me from conversations that we've had across the board are like. Imposter syndrome. I knew what it meant, but I feel like, oh my gosh, the level of how our guests have opened up about that. I'm like, this is a real thing that a lot of people are dealing with, and you know, how do we apply that?
[00:11:23] How do you break through that once you know that, imposter syndrome?
[00:11:27] Ashley: That's exactly what I was gonna ask you. That I'm on the exact same wavelength as, like,eyeahh. For you, Lindsay, like, I think that has come up with a lot of people. What is something that, what is a time you've encountered that or a way that you have felt it in your industry, in your life, and maybe like what is something that no one has told you that you feel like you could share in that arena?
[00:11:46] Because I think you're right. That is something that's come up surprisingly often in our conversations you've had with people so far.
[00:11:54] Lindsay: I think one of the things that I think about is the thing no one tells you, that I've learned a little bit from my experience with imposter syndrome and coming up through my career, is the thing that no one tells you.
[00:12:07] You can and should always ask questions. And what I mean by that is like when I think back to my very first imposter syndrome that I can remember in my career, and it's funny because now that I've interviewed a ton of people about this, some people say they don't experience it or didn't experience it at a debilitating level until they really made it to the place where they wanted to be.
[00:12:29] They had the big kahuna job, and all of a sudden they were like. Oh. Like now I'm here, what do I do? Some people have said that it is more; it shows up more in the beginning when you're navigating through. So for me, mine was probably more the beginning because I remember one of my first jobs, which was really dedicated to covering just sports.
[00:12:48] I was covering the Miami Dolphins in Miami, Florida, and we were at the Super Bowl. One year, our team, which I worked with, was basically embedded with the Dolphins because our station was partnered with the Dolphins. So that was an awesome setup to have, and actually,y people that are looking for like career advice, I always say if you have an opportunity and if you're going to look at local stations, if there are sports partnerships, it's amazing.
[00:13:12] So, being at the Super Bowl, there was an event one evening that we had to go in because we knew that a couple of executives were there. We're gonna be at this event, and that's where we were gonna pull them aside. And I vividly have this memory of going into this event where it was all these general managers from different teams, and I just felt like wasam a fish out of water.
[00:13:35] And it was just because I still felt so new. And that's. Space. You know, I've told people before that I started in news, and so going to sports, I had people in Miami that were like, we know that your background's news. Come here, and we're gonna teach you everything you need to know. We're gonna give you the lay of the land.
[00:13:50] Because one of my biggest fears, and I think this is a fear that you know a lot of people have in any respect, any aspect in which they work, is like, what if someone feels like I am not legit or like I'm a fraud? Or one of my big fears is like, just. Not being prepared. Like, if you're in a scenario where you don't know something or one of my other things is, oh my gosh, it crushes me if I feel like there's a missed opportunity.
[00:14:18] And sometimes when you feel, and you know that you are in the middle of, big opportunity, but you're not prepared to meet that opportunity, right? Like that's always something that I'm like, okay, preparation is so key just because. If you do the best you can to be ready for a given situation, then really all you can control is just being in that situation and letting it ride and letting God do the work.
[00:14:43] Whatever you believe, you know. But anyway, so I remember being in that scenario, and I was walking into this room with Brian, my videographer, who's amazing, and just feeling like I wanna belong here. I don't know that I do, like I'm wearing a suit it probably, but I'm not, I don't know. So I learned fast that it's like, okay, I, you can try to exude confidence, you know, by just, you know, shoulders back, walking into a room.
[00:15:10] But I really think what I've learned along the way that's helped me most is. Finding and not being scared to ask questions. Like, Hey, there's, there's an art to it. Like, if it's something that, you know, when I transitioned to sports, it was like, I feel like I should know a lot of these things that I'm asking, if I'm at the level where I am right now in sports.
[00:15:27] So not being intimidated that you're going to come off is not knowing your stuff, but being like, Hey, I'm so excited to be here and be covering this. Can you explain to me X, Y, Z? Or, you know, there's a way to ask those questions. I don't know if that makes sense, but. o physically, I've experienced imposter syndrome where I can point to that scenario of walking into a very specific room.
[00:15:48] I think otherwise it's just like, you know, certain times when you're given a big opportunity and I'm like sitting on a desk somewhere and you're anchoring or talking to someone who's whatever type of hall of famer and you're like, okay, this is so amazing and you're trying not to, you know, pinch yourself, but then you're like, do I really belong?
[00:16:10] Do I, yeah. Does that make sense?
[00:16:12] Ashley: Yes. I love that, and I think it really connects to, first two things that are coming up for me. Yeah. One is what you just said about the things everyone tells you, and I think that what I love about what you're doing in the interviews is just that it lowers those barriers and makes it so that people feel more connected.
[00:16:29] And I love that. And I think that's why the show for me is like so exciting to be part of, because I think being able to. Making those human connections shows that no matter, I mean, even if people are really high in their industry, they've accomplished these really amazing accomplishments. Like, that doesn't mean they don't have these struggles that unite us.
[00:16:47] And I think that's really comforting for people, and inspiring. So I love that. But it's also the other thing I was remembering is when you and I first met in person, Lindsay. The first day we got together, we were at a conference and we had not signed up for this awards show because we weren't sure if we weren't.
[00:17:04] We didn't know if we were gonna be in town. We were still trying to get all the timing down, and so we just didn't know. And you said, I really wanna go check this thing out now. Was oh, well, we don't have, like, we're not wearing the right clothes, so we didn't sign up, and it said you had to sign up.
[00:17:17] We like didn't follow the procedures. And you were like, let's just go see. And I love that we went up to the table, and you were so kind, but you were also like, I'm so sorry we did not follow the proper procedures. But I'm just wondering, is there any way that we could get in and hear some of these? Yes.
[00:17:35] And the people were like, absolutely. Like, here's the QR code that you can scan, and then you can slide right in. And we went, and we heard so many amazing speeches. We got to see a lot of really accomplished podcastera, nd it was just really inspiring. And so. Absolutely, like that is just you in that moment living what you were just sharing of just like, that's so funny.
[00:17:54] Ask the question. Yeah, say the thing, give it a go. And I think. By doing that, we got to do something really cool that we otherwise would've missed.
[00:18:02] Lindsay: Yeah. And
[00:18:02] Ashley: The worst that could have happened was they would've said, No, I'm sorry you didn't register. And so that moment of like, what were the stakes there?
[00:18:08] It wasn't a big deal to ask.
[00:18:10] Lindsay: You're right. And there was a lot that came out of that, watching that award show, because I remember vividly the man who stood up, and he was like talking about his wife and his family, and I don't know. So yeah, there were things that I still think about. But what's funny about that is.
[00:18:24] In that moment when we went in there, it's sort of like you said the word, it's kindness. It's like, because it doesn't matter how you approach that uncertainty. Or, and especially like you're saying, like if it's something where you were really supposed to do something one way, right. I don't promote that, like missing a deadline, waiting until forever.
[00:18:44] But it's like if you, all you can do is really right. Be your authentic self and just, Hey, here's what I would like to do. And also that sort of goes back to some of the practices that it takes in journalism in general. It's like you're trying to get to. Story you're trying to, you know, Hey, could we, you know, it's, it is interesting that part of it, but yeah.
[00:19:06] And I remember being so grateful that I had a partner in crime because you were such a great balance. And I was, that's when I was like, oh, this is gonna be good. Like, we're good. We got this, you know, because Yes. It was, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We were kind of like Thelma and Louise.
[00:19:23] Ashley: Yeah. And I do think, like you said, I mean, I, it is not that I, same, I don't promote like not following the guidelines.
[00:19:29] However, I think guidelines are often not there to actually prevent people from being in the room. And sometimes when we get caught up with imposter syndrome or we get caught up with doing things the right way, or we get caught up with what we think the rules are, we really miss out. And I think, you know, coming in, of course, the people who are winning the awards want people in the room.
[00:19:50] I mean that even just like the actual physical. Part of being present for someone is powerful. Well, but then also that mental part of just like, you can't be in the room. If you don't ask the questions, you're never gonna have those opportunities.
[00:20:04] Lindsay: It's very interesting too that you say that because I have really realized over the past couple months that I feel like the actual art of reporting, and like storytelling in that way, really.
[00:20:17] Something that I've loved for a long time, like I love that part of the craft. But what you're saying there about, ke, sort of not being scared to ask a thing, also in the profession of journalism, it's like sometimes I'll find myself in those situations where you're like, oh my God, this is a golden opportunity.
[00:20:33] So and so just walked out. How did that happen? But you're like, in the back of my mind, there are times that I have to push that voice down that's like. But hold on. You're really not supposed to have been in this position to run into this person. And even if you've done it completely the right way, it's like, but no, just get out of your own head and go do it.
[00:20:53] You know, like I still call my dad. About stuff like that all the time. Like, 'll be like, Hey, because my dad is in the same industry, he was a journalist who covered sports. And it's like, is this okay if I show up here, and what if I, you know, so I know that's a little bit in the weeds, but it's interesting to me that, yeah, you kind of always have that inner voice.
[00:21:13] And sometimes what I've seen too, especially when I worked at ESPN, is like. One difference in people whorare reallyjust badass at being like the hardcore breaking news sports reporters is that the question doesn't even cross their mind. They're like in the locker room, they're just like, Hey, tell me about d. There are times that I am like, Ugh, I really wish I could just be like, dah. Tell me this. But I’ll maybe feel like I'm a little bit too much of an empath sometimes, you know? And that kind of comes to mind.
[00:21:46] Ashley: It's a balance, right? It is a balance.
[00:21:48] Lindsay: It is what it is. That's where I am with it.
[00:21:50] Ashley: And being human first. And so there is like chasing the story but also caring about the person. And so, yeah, I think that is a fine line walk. And in fact, that brings me to another question here, which is, you're so good at this. What do you love about being a journalist and interviewing people?
[00:22:05] That was another question.
[00:22:07] Lindsay: I, that's a good question. Whoever sent that in, I really. Love the live aspect of things. I've also realized that, and when I keep saying that, it's like, I do think for so long you're in it and you're, you know, I came up through local news and then sports. So it's like you're always sort of in this mindset that, like, if you're driven, that it's like, okay, I'm gonna keep going.
[00:22:32] What market can I get to next? And so you kind of get used to that rhythm and roll with it. I really love being live talking about. Something that's about to happen that's like uncertain because the stakes can't be higher. So, like, if f there's a game, you know, my 6:00 PM sports center was perfect timing for me because oftentimes it would lead into a game, and it's like, what's gonna happen?
[00:22:55] Here are the stakes. We're showing you the behind-the-scenes shots. Other than that, type of like, broadcasting piece of it, I love, I really love the reporting, like I love talking to the folks involved in whatever this, whatever the scenario is. And I've also discovered that it doesn't just have to mean sports.
[00:23:12] Like lately, there are a couple of projects that I've done that weren't sports, and I'm like, oh, this is interesting that this still feels the same. It's like. Exciting. It's you're being authentic and you're learning someone's story, but I also think that there's sort of this measuring stick that goes off for me if I'm in a conversation with someone that's an interview.
[00:23:30] You know, it's sort of like a balance thing. And by the way, when I was at ES PN, we worked with this interviewing, John Sawatsky who I adore because he puts you through this like a day seminar, and his method is just really smart and it works. And I think about him in that all the time because.
[00:23:48] Really, the goal is you're getting someone to tell their story. And there's a very fine art to knowing when the right time to drill down in someone's story is, like being authentic. I don't mean like in a way that you're trying to get at something that they don't wanna talk about. I just mean getting them to explore and open up.
[00:24:04] And I really like that. And I think the reason I love that is because of why we're doing this podcast. It really is. It's like I'm genuinely interested in those things. So I think you know that. This is like natural, I don't know. When I was on a panel earlier this week, my job was to interview Nicole Lynn, who is a powerhouse sports agent.
[00:24:23] She reps Jalen Hertz, got him like the biggest contract under the sun, the quarterback of the Eagles. And her story was fascinating, and I found myself sitting there on this chair with he, living in front of hundreds of attorneys and people that are at this conference, and she's sharing her story. I really didn't.
[00:24:44] I was like, I don't have to do much, 'cause her story is so good. But the one thing that I found that I could add value with was like when she would start telling a story, I'd be like, hold on, 'cause I know your book. And don't leave this part out. Like, back up and tell them this. I'm like, Ooh, that's interesting.
[00:24:58] Like, there's something that I really love about that is like. Helping to bring someone's story or someone's experience to the masses. Like, so whatever that looks like, you know, it can look like you're on the sidelines and you're reporting a story about someone. It can look like you're hosting and you're setting up a big game that someone's about to play in.
[00:25:15] or it can be a podcast or a live podcast, you know? That was such a long answer. This is my problem. I've become long-winded and I
[00:25:23] Ashley: No, I was thinking about you doing that with guests sometimes on the podcast, and I love it when you're like, hold on, wait. Oh, thank you. And then you ask the follow-up question.
[00:25:30] Because I think a lot of times, for audience members, that is what we want to know. And so then having an interviewer who is able to say, Wait, hold on, and then ask those questions is just really powerful. Because, like you said, I think it gets people to the deeper place that sometimes is hard for them in their own.
[00:25:48] Story of what happened. It's harder to get there. And so that sometimes, like, guides people to that part that people really wanna know.
[00:25:56] Lindsay: Well, the art of interviewing, that man John would tell us that, you know, the real beauty is when you can conduct an interview that has an arc, nd he's more talking about if you've got like 15, 20 minutes.
[00:26:08] So we would always be like, but on SportsCenter, we get four minutes to do an interview. Like, you really, you've gotta pick a. Like a, small chunk of their story if you wanna use that tactic. But he would always say it's like, the less we say, the better. So even throwing in there like, well, what happened next?
[00:26:26] Then what? That's like oftentimes that yields the gold. Like, this is nerdy, but I'm telling you, I am so into the art of the interview. Like whhe, just in case anyone cares. The thing is like when someone. Starts by sort of raising what their expectation of whatever they're talking about was. That's when you're getting them to share their authentic story.
[00:26:51] Like, what did you expect when you started playing baseball as a young person, right? Like, that sounds so ridiculous, but there's a real power in that, a nd you're getting someone to just really take you through their experience. And I think that's so cool. And so then it's just like there's this little kernel of.
[00:27:07] Thing that you hear and then you're like, wait a minute, tell me more about that. And then, I don't know, it's just, it really blew my mind when we did that. And not to say it works every time.
[00:27:17] Ashley: Well, and that's come up in some of the interviews that you've done, of just like being able to ask people, like, what was that like for you?
[00:27:23] Yeah, and asking that question can really unlock a lot of powerful responses.
[00:27:29] Lindsay: John also would talk about it there., I love the challenge of interviewing two people at the same time. It's really challenging, and there are times when I've definitely done it where I've been like, Oh man, I should have done it so differently.
[00:27:43] But John, I remember when I was getting ready to do one interview on SportsCenter. It was two baseball players who were playing in the All-Star game, and he's like, Good luck with this. I was like, What do you mean? And he's like, they're gonna want you to ask all these questions to check the boxes that you would ask one of those guys on SportsCenter.
[00:28:03] But he's like, you can't do that. You have to ask. Player A about player B, and you have to ask player B about player A. And it made me think about the whole thing so differently because, and then when I recently, when I did an interview with Eddie Vedder and Anthony Rizzo, who at the time was with the Cubs, that's exactly what I was like, okay, so we're talking baseball.
[00:28:25] We're talking. Really, that became so challenging because you're not really talking a lot about Pearl Jam. Do you know what I mean? But I'm like, I wanna, right. So it's, anyway, I don't know. There are a million ways to skin a cat. I just, do think that's really interesting, and I think at the end of the day.
[00:28:42] It's just so helpful when people really share the shit, you know? That's really what it is. It's like none of us are perfect. Some of us have had a lot more success than others. Some haven't, and some that haven't are living much happier lives, and vice versa. Like, it's so let's talk about it, you know?
[00:29:00] Ashley: Yes, a hundred percent.
[00:29:01] And I think that's where adding more people to the interview can be really powerful because it does make someone more dimensional. Like the thing, like you said, like the Pearl Jam. Normally, that might be the thing that Eddie's better often talking about, but how interesting to see this other part of him and have him talk about something different.
[00:29:18] And I think that is where, when you bring in more people, yeah, you get this like more, more three-dimensional view of somebody who might have talked many times about their own thing. But we don't always get to see them talk about Right. All the other parts of them as a person.
[00:29:32] Lindsay: Yes. Right. Completely. You nailed it.
[00:29:35] Ashley: I wanted to, there, there are so many questions that people have here. Anotherr question is, what is something that no one tells you about being a woman in a male-dominated field?
[00:29:48] Lindsay: I should have prepped for this one. I think that something no one tells you about being a woman in a male-dominated field is that the sooner you can connect with other women who are in similar circumstances.
[00:30:07] The less, I think, daunting any of it seems. And look, like now you turn on a television and there are so many women there with the men, except on certain pregame shows. That still drives me crazy. Can I say that? I just said that I, but anyway, I think,
[00:30:25] Ashley: Yeahy, youu can.
[00:30:26] Lindsay: That seriously. We're like, where?
[00:30:28] Like, where's the woman? Like, how can there be like six dudes? I love those shows and I'm,
[00:30:34] Ashley: It's been shifting. The dynamics are definitely shifting, but I still think it's a valid question. I like, yeah, well yeah.
[00:30:38] Lindsay: Be and because, but not just because there should be a token woman and girls who are watching who are like into this industry.
[00:30:44] You are getting into it, but because you have a lot to say, because you know your stuff, and because you really also have a unique sensibility about maybe what someone is going through, because that's. A thing no one tells you about being a woman in a male-dominated field is that it becomes part of your superpower.
[00:31:01] Right. You know what I mean? Because you have this innate sort of sensibility to observe, to connect dots in a way that I think men are great at so many things, but maybe that's not one of them, there are strong suits, and I really believe it's ours. I just said that too. So, I think that's it. It's leaning into it, and it truly is leaning into and making connections with other women who are in the field.
[00:31:27] And they don't have to be doing the same thing that you're doing. They don't have to be, if you're a reporter, they don't have to be a reporter. It could be an executive, it could be a producer, it could be an associate producer, whatever. A writer, you know, I just think connecting with those people is what helps you both learn from each other's experiences.
[00:31:45] Have a sounding board when you need one. And also, you know, finding a way to, and this is something I just pulled from, Nicole Lynn's book. She's talking about mentorship and sponsorship and how mentorship is different. Mentorship is finding someone who can help you along the way and guide you. And it could be a peer, an older peer, what have you.
[00:32:05] A Sponsor is someone who gets in the rooms, like gets in the rooms where the decisions are being made, and can advocate for you when you're not there. And she made a point about making sure that a sponsor and probably also a mentor that you have is someone who is not just more. Really pro company sponsor, and you don't want them to obviously be down in on the company that they're working for or working with, but you want to just be able to have the confidence that someone is going to really look out for your best interest.
[00:32:37] You know? So even if that's just a conversation every now and then, like, hey, here are some things I'm experiencing as a woman. Like, can you help me navigate this? I think that's, 's a really concrete way is find other women that you can talk to. And I know I've been in that situation, I have had probably a couple of situations that were like high anxiety.
[00:32:58] You know, you're loving the thrill of the job, like when you're, whether it was sideline reporting or traveling on the go, you know, and doing, hosting where it's like there's something that. Is stressful is sort of, really heavy on my mind. And there was one experience where I remember being in a stadium and a friend of mine, a girlfriend, was there, and I was able to ask her this one question about something that was really stressing me out.
[00:33:25] And she was like, I have been the re and for whatever reason, I'm like, Why didn't I talk to her sooner? But I. No, from my experience, that sometimes I have been intimidated to ask women because here's something else no one tells you, is sometimes you have to get out of your own way in terms of the competition.
[00:33:45] And I'm hoping that in the entertainment sports industry, things are shifting still in a way where it's like the competition between women kind of gets erased. But I've learned a lot about that piece of it, it's like. There are times when it can feel like women are even pitted against each other because there are only limited spots, and you're both great at what you do.
[00:34:11] And I just think the faster that you can eliminate the competition and understand that there is really a piece of the pie for everyone, and everyone's. Journey is so different that you will ultimately end up being where you are supposed to be. The faster you can sort of just understand that and really kind of be okay with that, and therefore look at relationships with women in, really, in the most helpful of manners, I think the much more better off you'll be.
[00:34:40] Yeah. I don't know if you feel like that in your line of work, in what you've done.
[00:34:45] Ashley: Absolutely. I think a lot of that resonates, and I think what you talked about in the beginning about our team with Tea Nty is that what I love so much is that we lift each other up. Like, we really champion each other and not just with this show, but just as people.
[00:34:59] Yeah. And I think I have really loved that, but I agree with you that it is not always like that. I am happiest and feel best in my professional space, and just as in my space as a human when I'm doing that with other people. But it isn't always; we're not always trained to do that. So I think it is, yeah, trusting that there is enough opportunity for everyone that we all have our own unique and special.
[00:35:22] Abilities that are going to lead toward great opportunities, and those opportunities are not gonna be shut off by someone else. And I think it is like, you want to hold your ground to be, I mean, you have to, you know, ini jobs where there's a competitive element to it, you do have to pave your way.
[00:35:40] To a certain extent, that is necessary, but how can you pave your way without, you know, hurting other people or just feeling that you have to be disconnected from them? I think that makes a lot of sense. Yeah. So yeah, I really love that idea of just that in our industries, the better we all do, the more space we make for ourselves, not just like one person, but.
[00:36:01] All of us. And I think that's definitely the attitude I have with like podcasting and being in podcast production is just that, you know, the more that I do a great job, I help myself and I help other people. And yeah, I just have to trust that that attitude is like, you know, it definitely makes me feel best.
[00:36:18] And so when I can just stay in that space that it really works well. But that leads me to another. Work-life thing that I know comes up for both of us a lot, which is that we are both moms. Yeah. And so, someone also asked about, I, and I hesitate to even say this phrase, but the like work life family balance, which I know I, I question whether, I don't even like the word balance, but how do you navigate, let's put it this way, on your day to day, how do you navigate or not?
[00:36:52] The professional things that you d,o and then your family.
[00:36:58] Lindsay: I am horrible at it, and I
[00:37:05] Ashley: Just wanna say, I know you, so I know you're not, but I feel that thanks and I feel that for myself, that would be something I would feel too. It feels horrible sometimes.
[00:37:13] Lindsay: I, I love, I just genuinely love.
[00:37:17] As I'm sure so many people that are with us here are the same. I love being around my kids, and I love being like, I had a very hard time at the beginning of this school year because I was like, I just wanna be in and like see what they're doing, like my daughter. Okayy. So we,, for the first time, have split, you know, my son's in middle school, my daughter's in elementary school still, and a lot of the time was spent.
[00:37:47] Getting systems in place and prioritizing my son and making sure that it was good. And I felt like at some point, a couple weeks in, I was like, oh my God, I fell off. Like I'm not, I don't have this connection right now with like, what I, it used to be this like, happy sunny little elementary school, let's pop in and do library duty and all that stuff.
[00:38:07] So I'm just setting that bar so people understand, like I grew up with. My mom worked; my mom was in education. She was a teacher and then went on to be a principal. And my dad is a journalist, so like I, under, I, I saw them working. I saw my mom working, but my mom had this like innate ability to make it kind of feel like she wasn't, and she was always doing these things that I just remember, like these scavenger hunts taking us on these like.
[00:38:37] You know, weekend day trips into the city, 'cause Washington is right there from Virginia. So we would just hop on the metro and go. And I, so like that's kind of what I saw modeled, and that is what I kind of, I don't wanna say like set the bar, but. I love doing that kind of stuff with my kids. And sometimes I also think like you have to just give yourself grace, and like it becomes that you're just sticking all that in and you're trying to do all the things.
[00:39:01] You can't be everything to everyone. For sure. I struggle with the t, and I have a couple le friends that you could ask who would be like, oh, but when work comes into the picture, I. Really am still trying to figure out my best structure and use of time being in a freelance world. Because you know, when you're an example, when I was at ESPN or when I'm doing the Olympics and I have my schedule and I know for three weeks I am going in at 7:00 PM, I'm coming home at 2:00 AM, whatever it is, I know that I've got my structure and it.
[00:39:40] It then becomes a lot easier for me to get all the other stuff done around it. And I don't really know why that is. I bet a lot of people are like that. I think, you know, when I would be sideline reporting and then when I would end up having downtime for like an hour or tw,o and you're in a hotel room, I could crank out the stuff I needed to get done for my kids.
[00:39:56] I was like so on top with the doctor's appointments. 'Cause you have to be, I am a personality that if I don't have to be, it might not happen. So. I, this is also just like I'm just sharing too much and like I'm embarrassed right now for my mom because she'd be like, oh my God, this is so you, but it's so true.
[00:40:14] So I'm like, I. I need to create a structure for myself. I have been very upset with myself recently, and I mean like for two days now, because I'm like, there are three things in my life that are really important to like my Lindsay happiness that I was doing the past year, and they are three things that I have cut out completely for the first few weeks of happening, and I'm just basically a no-show.
[00:40:39] So I have been a no-show for this tennis. Clinic that I signed up for, and I think it's probably too long for me anyway, because it's hard for me to have like two hours together of something else when I have. Other projects too, because Ashley, I'm sure you can relate to this, although you're much more organized than I am, like when I have multiple things, it is hard to have podcasts.
[00:41:01] Here's the broadcasting side, here's the home stuff, and I also might be doing a certain project elsewhere, right? So it's like, oh my God, I find that it's difficult and I realize, oh my gosh. I have just started playing tennis, is the thing. And then this, I've told you before, I love doing this improv thing, and it's just because I love to stretch that muscle, because it feels like hard work to me.
[00:41:22] And I think there's a lot of value in walking away from something and being like, that was really hard. But like I do feel like maybe I learned something, and so if I were picking one thing, that would be the thing to hone in on. But I have missed several classes in a row because of various things.
[00:41:38] I say that because also sometimes you're making the choice that like, no, it's more important to be present for this child at this event. Therefore, I can't be there, or, no, this evening is more important because we've got this middle school homework that is a little trickier now, and it's better for me to not be in the class, but I think I could do a better job of speaking up and also leaning on.
[00:42:01] You know, my partner in crime here, Melvin, who's really great at all that stuff too. So I probably need to do like a lot of self-intervention. Does that make sense? Like,yeahh. It was, it became very crystal clear to me though, literally when I was thinking about this yesterday, 'cause I'm like. There is a problem, and this is my problem because my other friends will, a lot of them will make time and not sacrifice that time.
[00:42:23] And this is probably why I ended up crying in my car in the garage today. So there's that, you know?
[00:42:29] Ashley: Yes. I feel like that all makes a lot of sense. And I think what I am hearing as a mom who has a schedule that is both flexible and also challenging. Yes. That, like what I'm hearing you say, is just that.
[00:42:44] I think often we feel, and I think this is true for parents and many other people, that somebody is being let down. Like I can't do all the things, but I want to do all the things, a nd it's hard to choose which thing, and sometimes I just have to remind myself, like. Not a, there's no right choice.
[00:43:04] Lindsay: Yep.
[00:43:05] Ashley: I just can't, I can't duplicate myself. I can't be at all of it at once. And so, you know, how can I make space for that? And I have been having the same struggles with the schedule. In fact, I am embarrassed to say, but things no one tells you. I have spent a lot of time yesterday trying to talk with a.
[00:43:23] Chat GPT bot about, I'm like, my schedule is like a disaster. Like how about,
[00:43:29] Lindsay: You mean about your schedule?
[00:43:30] Ashley: Yes. Like seriously? Yes. Yes. Because it was this moment, for me also, where I was like, what has changed is that my schedule feels unhinged and like, how can I like re that in a little bit? or just have more space for myself if I can't rein it in.
[00:43:47] I think it's also that we have different seasons in our lives, and so. Sometimes it's just trying to make space for the fact that it is chaotic or, you know,
[00:43:57] Lindsay: Like sometimes we need to speak up and let other people know, like, Hey, this is what I'm dealing with. Not out of the norm for anybody, but like, can we, can I get your help?
[00:44:06] Yeah, maybe that's actually what this kind of comes down to, is like, ca, I, can we work on this together? Here are some things I'm feeling. What can we do? And really, it's about being transparent. And also like, I think I should just say, because this could be maybe. I'm just gonna get something off my chest here.
[00:44:23] And Ashley knows, 'cause I told her at the beginning of this conversation, but I found myself being in sort of this spiraling tizzy of things. And I, because I haven't done those things to prep myself with like, how could I have organized this? I was upset, I was frustrated, and I got into an argument with my parents, and that never happens.
[00:44:43] And they are like, besides my immediate family, like they're the most important things to me. And so now. I need to go back and apologize. And I'm also wondering if there are tips for doing that. Like, what is the best honest thing, right? And not that we turn this into a therapy session, but maybe there's a lesson in that for someone like me, you know, just not letting it get to the point of chaos where you're like flying off the wall.
[00:45:10] Because of little things that you could normally control if you were more in control of your own time and your own ways that you need to take time to make you happy a little bit. You know?
[00:45:21] Ashley: Yes. I think that is exactly in an effort to do all the things for all the people, sometimes there is not enough.
[00:45:28] Care, and I don't even wanna say self-care because I think that has become a whole, I hate that word.
[00:45:32] Lindsay: I know.
[00:45:33] Ashley: It's like, but I think, but it is care for ourselves as people. Yeah. Like making space for what has to be done in order to keep yourself, you know, regulated. I like to keep my body and your mind like.
[00:45:46] Functioning, so that you don't fly off the handle, which I certainly, yeah. You had your car incident. Mine was in the closet last weekend. It's fine.
[00:45:54] Lindsay: Really anywhere you need to go, anywhere you need to go.
[00:45:58] Ashley: And it was not a time everyone was away from the house, unfortunately, but you know,
[00:46:02] Lindsay: Did they see you, or were you
[00:46:04] Ashley: Eventually, my husband finally comes in, and he is like.
[00:46:08] Babe, I'm like, I just need a minute. I'm gonna, I'm gonna pull us in here. I'm gonna ask a couple of quick-fire questions and then, well, I wanted to ask one more about, we were talking about, like, balancing responsibilities. People are also interested in your schedule, so if you wanna just comment for a minute about how you and Melvin are with your schedules, like how.
[00:46:32] Any tips or not about ways that you all handle that as a family?
[00:46:37] Lindsay: So, I think Melvin is really great on communicating his schedule a week prior, you know, so we've gotten into that rhythm where I know, or more than a week, I know stuff that he has coming up, which is great, and I try to reciprocate that too as much as possible with what we have going on.
[00:46:55] Although I've realized that's really something that I can do more proactively is like, get it set. So he. He sees it in front of his face because what people don't realize the thing no one tells you, he's talked about this, is like the amount of stuff that he deals with when he gets into work. It is impossible for anyone to keep up with it.
[00:47:12] It's just like right in front of your face. So much. And he does a really great job of being present and being prepped, and it's. It's really tricky. So my point is, that I think it's like making sure that he just has seen it or is aware and can look at it, 'cause oftentimes it's like something's come in and it goes out.
[00:47:31] So we do that in the prep, and then we really try to prioritize dinner time together as much as we can with our whole family. And we're, you know, it's just like anyone that tries to do that, of course, there are nights where we just can't, and one kid is flying off to some activity and vice versa. But we really try, and even though sometimes it feels like you're just sitting there and you're not talking specifically about anything, or it's not like we're sitting there asking like, okay, what's your high and your low?
[00:47:56] 'cause we found that my daughter likes that. My son's like me. But that, and then I think. We're our nighttime routine is a work in progress still, and that's okay. But that's kind of how we do it. And we have certain tent poles that are things that we have really started to love along the way of like what we do for our just family time.
[00:48:21] You know, to get away is a little foursome, but then also seeing family, because one other thing that I think is hard is that our families both live away. So it, you know, that can be tricky because you obviously really wanna see family, so yeah.
[00:48:36] Ashley: I love it. Okay. Rapid-fire questions here. What made you start telling the joke of the day?
[00:48:42] Lindsay: Thanks for asking. My kids during COVID, and we were homeschooling, and I would really try, like in the morning, to get them into this school routine. And we were actually like given really good direction, on like, hey, here's what we want you to be doing with the kids, et cetera. And, I feel like I started to sneak in a joke of the day so that they would pay attention to me.
[00:49:03] That's kind of what it was. And I was like, here, we'll give you a little, here's what we're gonna do. Here's the first thing, and then, hey, here's your joke of the day. And they kind of knew to look forward to it. So I started that, and then I randomly posted like one, and people responded and were like, Ah.
[00:49:18] And so I tried it again, and then it sort of became this like collective thing that I was like, oh, this is interesting. This community is. Is Intuit. Maybe it was just a way for people to all sort of connect, which I thought was really cool. You know?
[00:49:31] Ashley: I love that. Thanks. Favorite NBA team?
[00:49:34] Lindsay: Ooh, that's a good question.
[00:49:37] I started really covering sports in Miami, as I said. So I've always been a huge Heat fan, although I'm from DC, Virginia, so the Wizards are, you know, they're like family. But we've sort of transitioned a little bit. To, kinda like the Knicks, like they're really fun to watch. And, big fans of Jalen Brunson and the way he carries himself on that team.
[00:50:02] I'm also a massive Patrick Ewing fan, so I, it's, you know, can I say three? I just did, but so that's kind of where we are, but we're, we love watching the NBA together, and especially since both my kids play basketball, so that's been really fun.
[00:50:17] Ashley: I love that. Okay. One more rapid fire. And then, I wanna ask you three things no one knows about you.
[00:50:24] One more rapid fire. Lots of people have questions about everything related to makeup. Do you have just one tip, person? Anything that you could share that maybe inspires you, or like a trick you've learned that you like?
[00:50:40] Lindsay: Yes, I love to use face rollers and under eye stuff, and this is from a makeup artist.
[00:50:55] Well. A makeup artist named Deb who works for the Today Show, who I love, who if I've ever gone in to co-host that show or been on the third hour with Melvin, like she's, she just has all these tricks of the trade. And I've worked with a ton of makeup artists and I've loved, like I Ds, pn. They were so good.
[00:51:10] I love it when people touch my face, and it's cold, and they have stuff. So I like to go and leave a face roller in your refrigerator. And my problem is I've left like two. In hotels in the past, like three weeks, because I do that, I'll stick 'em in the fridge. But I find, and also my grandma's probably my biggest inspiration with this.
[00:51:33] My grandma, who's no longer with us, but she would always talk about, like, rolling your face back up. And her skin looked so good. Like for so long. She was in her nineties, and I really value that. I think it's like if you can put some cold on your face, he, you know, you really can help control that.
[00:51:51] I don't know. I know that sounds ridiculous. I should do a how-to with that and show people.
[00:51:55] Ashley: I would love. I would love it. Okay. I'm like, I have this roller that I have never done anything with, and I feel like it's one of those things where somebody said Oh, you should get this, and I got it, and I have never used it, Lindsay, so I will be putting mine in the fridge.
[00:52:06] I'll try it out. Sounds fun. Okay, to wrap up, what are three things no one knows about you?
[00:52:12] Lindsay: Oh my God. Okay. Three things. No one knows about me. Ohh, this is so tricky. I am a morning person. I love mornings. Like I love a sunrise and an opportunity to just be up before anyone is up. I don't always succeed at it, but in terms of time of day, that's my favorite time of day.
[00:52:35] Secondly, I could eat spaghetti and meatballs. I teach a class, I teach a religious ed class, and I just told them this, and they were like, Whatt? I was like, I could eat spaghetti and meatballs literally every day for the rest of my life, and I would not get bored. I love spaghetti and meatballs, and I specifically love the meatballs that are my mom's recipe.
[00:52:56] I do not like them if they have bread crumbs in them. Don't like it, don't need it, don't want it. Like, that's just me. I specifically also like Turkey meatballs, so I. I just like that it is baseline. That's it. And also, let's see, a third thing no one knows about me is, I was cut, did not make my high school soccer team.
[00:53:22] And I'm saying that because I love the World Cup. I love women's soccer. And I also think there's value in saying that because I have used that before with some kids that I know. I think. When you're on this journey, whether you're an athlete or you are parents of kids who are trying out, and I have more by the way, I would love for you to ask me that question again.
[00:53:42] I really wanted to make it. And when I look back on that experience, I was like, I really wanted to make it, but I didn't want it badly enough to really prep myself in the way that I really should have. So I'm saying that to say, I realized what it feels like if you're resting on your laurels. And that was a scenario where I felt like I was really good at like the rec soccer or whatever, did this, did that, and then I went in for it and I was like, what?
[00:54:04] So. Sometimes it's fun to share and not-so-exciting things too, you know?
[00:54:08] Ashley: I love that. I think, yes, it's good for people to know the times we did not make it. Thank you. Thank you all so much for joining us today. We will be doing this again with Lindsay, so if you're thinking of questions, please go ahead and send them.
[00:54:25] You can put them in comments or you can DM us, but we will hold onto them for our next round of Q&A. Love it.
[00:54:32] Lindsay: Thanks. You're so good at this. This was fun.
[00:54:35] Ashley: Thanks for joining us.
[00:54:37] Lindsay: Well, that just felt like some free therapy for me, so I hope that didn't, I hope I didn't share too much. But actually, I find it's always helpful to go back, and like when people ask you questions and you're answering, isn't that funny how that self-reflection can really.
[00:54:51] Sort of sheds a different light on things for you and how it can be really helpful. I think everyone should do that from time to time. Anyway. Thank you, Ashley. And like I said, I wanted to also share that, a couple of other women that are a part of this team, which we didn't set out being like, this has gotta be an all-female team, but it's been really cool.
[00:55:09] Sarah Walsh is our brand manager who supports TNOTY through her business Next Era Influence. Funny story, I have a really great friend who's a sportscaster named Sarah Walsh. So I have to decipher between the two of them on my phone. Also, Samantha Archuleta, we call her Sam Sam is our editing wizard.
[00:55:28] She is phenomenal. She's also an audiobook narrator because no one on our team can do just one thing. But she's got this amazing voice. She also has her own podcast, which is called Something More Human. So check that out. I wasn't gonna leave you hanging. You might have thought I was, but here we go.
[00:55:42] My joke of the day. Why did the headphones blush?
[00:55:51] Why did the headphones blush? Because the mic was hot.
[00:55:59] Ashley: I actually love that one.
[00:56:01] Lindsay: Alright, I hope you like it. Thanks again. Just another note to please subscribe so you can get access to the episodes that we have coming up. Let us know what you think, what you wanna hear more of. And as always, we appreciate you being here in this space.
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